I'm sorry, I just can't. I wanted not to say anything really I did, but I can't. It's not that I don't like your art style, because the lighting, the colors you used ect are terrific it's just that her outfit is completely ridiculous. I feel that it takes away from the piece. Like it's just gratuitous nudity. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this comment but that doesn't mean I don't honestly feel that your art is fantastic. I'm just tired of seeing women's bodies being objectified, there's sexy and then there's the absurd. Take my comment with a grain of salt, it's just my opinion.
I appreciate your comment, but you shouldn't be so passive-aggressive about your feelings. If it's truly how you feel, then you should be able to speak without repercussion. You should really consider the site that you're on though. This is "deviant" art, not "conservative" art and there are people out here who are probably a lot more comfortable with expression of sexuality than you are. I feel the human body is a beautiful and glorious thing, that all people are beautiful and it's my role as an artist to portray them as such.
Now to clarify, there's the difference between women being objectified and pictures of women. I drew this character and as such, I can objectify her any way I feel. She is a representation of a human being, but she is not a human being. She literally IS an object, being nothing but pixels on the screen. She has no representation except for what I choose for her. I find my interpretation of her both sexual and strong. You'll notice that trend in a lot of my gallery. I don't draw skinny waifs, I don't photograph models who are unhappy with their own bodies or exemplify a unhealthy behavior model such as starvation or unhealthy dieting, I choose normal every day women who are happy and healthy and sexually empower them. I don't pose them in demeaning poses, I don't spread them out make make them sexual objects, they are proud of themselves in both their bodies and their sexuality.
I realize it's your opinion, but I don't think it's a very well formed opinion. You should really have a better introspective into yourself, but that's just my opinion.
#1 I wasn't trying to be passive aggressive so if I came off that way I apologize.
#2 I know what your saying, you're drawing women with actual body types not just "skinny waifs" as you put it. I went through some of your gallery and your art is truly beautiful. I like how you depict differnt body types. I agree with nearly everything you said in your last message. I'm not well informed about the art world. One because I've never really taken an art class, and two because I'm not a visual artist at all so my opinion probably can't compare to others in some respects. Yet it still counts. When you said your image isn't a real person and you can objectify her all you want, frankly I felt a chill reading that.
I know you probably didn't mean it how it came off, I know you meant that she isn't real so it shouldn't mean anything, but it does mean something, especially to me. She is a depiction of the female body and whether she is real or not does not change this. I believe she is the image of the female body within the male gaze, sexual sure but I wouldn't say empowered by it. She's a witch right? She looks very intelligent and ready to fly off on her own, but then there's her outfit. Sexy outfits are fine, they can make a woman feel powerful and unique, but I feel like this outfit is less about empowerment and more about attracting the male gaze. Obviously guys will appreciate a sexy lady, especially on deviantart, but she isn't wearing the outfit as a sign of sexual empowerment, she's wearing it to attract sexual attention. Frankly it feels a little silly and out of place with her confident demeanor.
Maybe I'm going after the wrong person, I know there are worse things on deviantart, I've been scrolling through the website a number of years now and have been submitting some work for about a year. Believe me I know it could be worse. She could be tied up, she could be gagged, she could have body fluids all over her face. Her body could be disproportionate and physically impossible like Jessica Rabbit.
Yet I saw her outfit and couldn't click away. I'm just very tired and I can't stress that enough.
I'm tired of how woman's bodies are constantly treated like sexual objects, real life models or otherwise. I'm tired of being told its supposed to be empowering for women. I've had that comment directed towards me personally many times. I know you meant your character feels empowered but it makes me angry when other people, mostly men, tell me that I should feel empowered by these images. I should feel strong when the male gaze is directed at me. I should feel empowered by being "confident in my sexuality" enough to dress scantily. Yet this is not what I and many other females feel when witnessing these images. Frankly they make some of us very uncomfortable.
Look at American comic books. When female readers, a small but thriving minority, complained about a few character depictions in the new DC Reboot as well as the number of woman currently working for DC Comics, they were met with hostile remarks. Dan Didio is currently the co-publisher of DC comics and controls many aspects of the new comics DC is churning out. When these woman and some men complained about the depleting number of women superheros being published in the comics and for the depleting number of female writers working for DC, they were verbally harrased. I can't find the link to one woman dressed as Batgirl asking about the number female creators and literally getting yelled down from the mic. (Although there are many aticles on it) Yet I did find a clip of one man asking the same question and getting an equally hostile response. ([link])
The man in this audio is asked hostile questions and is not allowed to further divulge his opinion, it's classic deflection on Didio's part.
I'm constantly aware that my opinion is laughed off, deemed unimportant, or disregarded entirely just like the people concerned with DC's behavior. I should somehow be more "introspective" with myself in order to feel differntly about my body and how woman are depicted sexually towards others. Like somehow looking deep inside myself will make me okay with being bombarded by these images in the social media and make me "understand" whatever the hell it is I need to understand about the female depiction.
I know your not like these people, you treated me like an intelligent human being, you actually considered my opinion instead of telling me; "You're a fucking noob, lol stop complaining, get back in the kitchen, lol."
And I have heard some of these.
So thank you for treating me like a person.
However I am still exhausted from this behavior. Just type in the words "sexy" and Catwoman, WonderWoman, Batgirl, Powergirl and I'm sure you can agree that some of these woman are most certainly NOT empowered.
But you realize, there are double standards in yourself. That's why I stress you should really consider what your own stance on objectification of women is. Your own avatar, Sailor Venus, fights crime in a leotard, mini skirt, and high heels. I would argue that your avatar is far more objectifying than my picture ever is. You know nothing about the character I've created and I openly admit that she was created as a sexual representation of a witch. The intention of my drawing is to pander to the sexuality of the character, no more, no less.
On the other hand, Sailor Venus propagates the stereotype that women should be performing actions in a short skirt, frilly bows, and high heels. Mine is overtly and not secretly sexual. Sailor Venus is supposed to be a greater paradigm of wholesomeness yet is in a very obviously objectified tiny sailor skirt and heels. I would say Sailor Venus is worse than my drawing.
Part of my point is from perspective. I've created this character and I openly made it sexually gratifying. It's what I like to draw, and it's my drawing. I have no intention to give it greater meaning or substance. She's mostly naked by design. Then you have Naoko Takeuchi, a female artist, creating a female super hero character who supposed to represent a teenage crime fighter but you don't see the hypocrisy of using her as an avatar when she does the very things that you say DC super heroes do. Shouldn't you be more upset at her?
I'm fully embracing of your words, but unfortunately, one cannot simply say "I dislike the attitude, YOU need to change it." No, to be frank, YOU have to change as much as I would. It's not on my shoulders to bear the burdens that offend you. You have to create characters YOU want to see, you have to create a world YOU want to affect. If you don't, you're simply adding noise to the world... your opinions are simply that - your opinions. An idea is cheap, everyone has them. If you want them to mean something, you have to take action... you have to create something that means something to you, instead of telling others what to do.
Ultimately, there's a fine line between sexism and sexual. It's ridiculous to say it's objectifying of women when it's my character. If I took one of your characters or took someone else's creation and altered it to wear what my character has on, then you could argue it's objectification. Without a baseline, however, you cannot say my creation is an objectification because simply because you are offended by it. It's like being offended that nudists at a nudist colony are nude. This is my character in my drawing residing in my page. It's creation was intended to be sexual. It's intention was not to be sexist. If you don't interpret my art that way, then I think that you've looked to deeply into the meaning of my artwork and, in a way, I'm flattered that you think there's some deeper message to it all... but I unfortunately am not one to carry such messages in my art.
I worry that the reason you feel my artwork, or perhaps in particular this artwork, is objectifying is because of the amount of skin that is being rendered. That's why I am unsure if you understand the purpose of this drawing. I don't think nudity or the amount of skin shown represents the objectification of women. As the example I explained before, seeing a nudist nude at a nudist colony is obviously not objectifying. I have not drawn this witch as a prone victim, or have her bending over spreading her ass cheeks while she bakes cookies in the kitchen for her man, or anything else. She is simply standing there, mostly naked. I have not placed any greater message... there are no tentacles raping her, there are no men beating her or hurting her, so the question I might ask is why you feel her standing there, mostly nude, offends you? She's not looking at the camera winking knowingly, she's not offering herself for sex... she has not become a sexual object. I fully embrace that she, as most of the artwork on my page is sexual but I reject the idea that they are either sexist or objectified.
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